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| Re: Filling a void [message #126599 is a reply to message #126508 ] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 17:59 |
 Karl P(eterson)
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I am with Brian here, what an utterly terrific post. I am halve tempted to say it should be immortalized in a sticky.
Although one does wonder what these amazing stretch of Human Resources imagination might have been  .
Karl "I have been that guy too" P
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| Forum: Church Sound |
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| Topic: mixer without channel mutes.. |
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| Re: mixer without channel mutes.. [message #126593 is a reply to message #126582 ] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 00:35 |
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Greg Hertfelder
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Alex
It's difficult to understand the complexities of your system through a text description, but it sounds like like you have a couple simultaneous issues - feedback reduction and sound dispersion. You have my vote for the "doing-the-most-with-the-bare-minimum" award.
I checked the Operation Manual for the Dynacord PM2200, and adding some kind of external mechanical SPST Mute switch through the Insert jacks would work, but silent operation couldn't be assured; it would inexpensive to build a prototype for one channel. However you could have quiet, automatic muting by installing compressor/gates to selected mic channel insert circuits. The compressor-gates would effectively gate off unused mics until sound is applied to the input of the mic. A mild amount of compression through the device will also help you do your job a little more easily.
Having said all this, once you start piling on external processors, the church's money might be better spent investing in a digital console (like the Mackie TT24 or the Tascam DM4800 or a couple of Yamaha 01V96VCM's coupled together), which have compression, gating, and complex equalization built in to each input channel.
Let us know what you end up doing.
[Updated on: Sat, 05 July 2008 01:02]
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| Topic: new to church sound |
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| Re: new to church sound [message #126595 is a reply to message #126590 ] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 08:06 |
Brad Weber
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I am also having difficulty understanding exactly what you are asking. Also, the forum rules require that your alias be your real name, you need to address that or the thread will be locked.
Brad Weber
muse Audio Video
www.museav.com
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| use real, full name when posting here [message #126596 is a reply to message #126581 ] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 14:32 |
Tom Young
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Please read the rules and then edit your profile so that your real, full name is displayed when you post.
Thanks.
Tom Young, Church Sound section moderator
Electroacoustic Design Services
Oxford CT
Tel: 203.888.6217
Email: dbspl@earthlink.net
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| Topic: 10 Rules To Live By. |
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| Re: 10 Rules To Live By. [message #126594 is a reply to message #125723 ] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 07:27 |
Phil Rowley
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Registered: November 2007
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Okay, back on topic
1. Don't camp out at the board during rehearsals. TALK to your vocalists and musicians and find out if their mix is okay. If you're FOH, walk the room and ask for feedback from those
who may be listening.
2. On time is late. Get there in plenty of time to setup for the day's services or event.
3. Sometimes its okay to shut off the meter and go with your gut feeling for room SPL. (Just don't get carried away
4. Educate the end user about the proper use of gear. This means everything from the guy who holds the mic 50 feet away to the vocalist that twists the antenna on the IEM pack as they shove it into their pocket.
5. Where applicable, always check your drum mic placement. Explain to the drummer the
proper location for each mic and why.
6. If you don't know something, then ask someone who has the answer. Don't pretend to know it all.
7. Respect your musicians and vocalists and they will respect you in return. (Remember this rule, even when the new guitar player forgets his ear buds for the xth
week in a row
8. Know your tunes in advance and who is leading them (vocally and instrumentally).
9. Set limits on your volunteer time commitments. Just because you're a sound team of 1 or 2 doesn't mean you have to be there every weekend. The key to longevity is knowing where to set this limit and stick with it.
10. Always use your real, full name when posting on this forum LOL..sorry, couldn't resist!
[Updated on: Sat, 05 July 2008 07:29]
Lead Sound Engineer
Kentwood Community Church
Grand Rapids, MI
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| use real, full name when posting here [message #126597 is a reply to message #126583 ] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 14:34 |
Tom Young
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Please read the rules and then edit your profile so that your real, full name is displayed when you post.
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Tom Young, Church Sound section moderator
Electroacoustic Design Services
Oxford CT
Tel: 203.888.6217
Email: dbspl@earthlink.net
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| Re: 10 Rules To Live By. [message #126598 is a reply to message #125723 ] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 15:18 |
Jeff Ekstrand
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10. Always use your real, full name when posting on this forum LOL..sorry, couldn't resist!
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Awesome.
Jeff Ekstrand
Event Production Manager
Christian Heritage Academy, Northfield, IL
FOH Coach/Engineer, Special Projects Manager
Willow Creek Community Church, North Shore Campus, Northfield, IL
"Why should God settle for less than the best?"
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| Topic: Matrixing on M7 |
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| Re: Matrixing on M7 [message #126600 is a reply to message #126501 ] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 20:07 |
Bart Pollard
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Registered: June 2008 |
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One more question......
What groups do i use to construct a matrix? DCA's?
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| Topic: Hard wired In Ear Monitors (IEMs) |
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| Re: Hard wired In Ear Monitors (IEMs) [message #126601 is a reply to message #126441 ] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 20:44 |
Thom Dukes
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Registered: April 2008 |
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Although we (Pro Co Sound) make a Personal Monitor System, this question isn't about the way it is getting mixed, just the way is getting to the ears.
I have to recommend the wired Shure stuff. I personally/professionally use the 400 wired packs. In worship and at Pro Co's trade show booths. It is nice not to struggle with setting up wireless IEM in a room the size of a few football fields that has every frequency in the industry struggling to get along. I find that they, the 400s, sound great and still give the user a good idea what the system sounds like.
I have spoken to quite a few people that don't want teach a worship band how to mix their own ears. Whether it is Hear, Aviom or Momentum, the extra work with the worship musicians usually pays off. They take a huge step in their commitment to providing the best worship experience for those in attendance. And the FOH engineer is freed up to provide the best mix possible.
I will talk to anyone who wants to listen about our product, Momentum, but I am for sure, for Shure:)
Thom Dukesherer
Venture Products
National Sales Manager
Pro Co Sound, Inc
t-dukesherer@procosound.com
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